Travian intermezzo

Well… it’s been a long time, hasn’t it? It’s not healthy for a blog to be abandoned for such a long time – I realize this. And instead of publishing new Utopia instalment I dare to write about the reason (well, aside from laziness and other stuff) why I stopped doing many things – and blogging was among them.

Few days before Eastern Holidays my working mate showed me… “at last the game that suits me with its pace!” “What? Where?” I was curious because he’d never played game at work before. That was that ominous day in my life when I encountered Travian. To sum it up, yesterday we won the final “world wonder race” on – meaning I was the member of the winning alliance – and that (hopefully) definitely ended my Travian period. Let’s start with why I started to play this game in the first place. 🙂

Travian is very catchy game and you definitely should try it – with caution though. 😉 If you have a lot of free time and you can check Internet regularly you might be successful in the game. I don’t say that it’s mandatory to play it 24/7, but there are players who do so – with the help of so called “account sitter” – that’s mechanism that is introduced in the game itself. Now what’s that game about? It’s sort of real-time medieval MMO strategic game. You start with one small village and you can end up with tens of them (or even one hundred on speed server – which I cover later). First you have to choose your nation – either Romans, Gauls or Teutons. They all have their advantages and despite their descriptions (like “Gauls are defensive”) good players can play aggressively with any of them.

Rule your Empire!

Whole game is controlled via few main views. You can see your village overview – and upgrade resource fields (lumber, clay, iron and crop). You can see your village center – and build/upgrade buildings or walls. You can click on various buildings and perform related actions there – build some troops in barracks or stables, train your hero, making deals on market. You can view map to check bigger players around which would likely to make raids on your village. 🙂 Or you can send troops on weaker players in order to steal their resources. Resource stealing – so called “farming” – is integral part of the game. It’s hard to survive without resources, it’s impossible to be on top without farming.

And that’s the first issue I have about this game. You simply can’t be good and nice. There are many naive players who enter the game (often lately after the server start which is even worse for most of them) and whine in messages “please don’t attack me”. Heck! I don’t ATTACK you, I just RAID you. Whatever… it is attack indeed, but how to explain that I want his resources. “Sim City” is maybe the most often mentioned game within messages exchanged between players. Like: “This is not simcity, this is the war game!” Or: “Stop whine and go play SimCity!” It’s written on the front page of Travian: “Build up villages, wage wars or trade with your neighbors.” This is true, but it doesn’t emphasize the most important – it’s all about being aggressive.

You can also grow just fine only with upgrading and spending your resources (so other players can’t steal too much from you). Talking about upgrading… there is very good balance here. Because as you have better levels of resource fields the production is higher – but the cost of another upgrade is higher as well – but the production gain from another level is higher too. Hence here is sort of positive spiral which makes the game interesting equally when you’re working with numbers like 10 (whatever it is) and numbers like 10,000. This is very nice about it.

Be hard!

Back to the struggle! Yes, you can be merciful from time to time. I let live one player … the result was that his villages were taken not by me but by the players around. So I didn’t save him actually – and I was the one who suffered loss because I was stupid and mild. Not that I was so good to everyone 🙂 but in this case I wanted to appreciate his quite smart defense. I mentioned taking over villages. You build village and except your capital (that can’t be taken) it is possible to take it with special units – that might be expensive but you can afford it later quite easily. Taking over village is quite tricky but with enough power and some help from your alliance members you can do it with no problem really.

So if you’re unlucky you can end up with most of your villages lost in favor of bigger players. Especially if you’re lone-wolf refusing to join (preferably strong) alliance. If they want you in the first place. 😉 Not that your capital is safe. You start the game with population of 2 in your first village, but any village can be taken to 0. The village then disappears. Even the capital is lost completely – only the last village you have can’t disappear – but do you really care after 5 months of game when you have 1 village with 0 pop? I’m not whining now about myself, it was never my case. I just don’t like this game because of this – because there is no way how you can “just trade with other players”, no way how to play it and be nice. You mostly have to forget about human aspect and adopt aggressive mindset. This game is played by nice people as well, yet it’s hard to find out – because they have to play without mercy for their own good.

What about units?

I should talk a little about units and their movement. Every unit has various numeric characteristics – attack, defense vs. infantry, defense vs. cavalry, speed, how much it can carry and upkeep – which is how much crop the unit consumes per hour. Every nation has 5 general units – three or two of them are infantry (they eat 1crop/h) and the rest cavalry (2, 3 or 4 crop/h). For your idea – you can host around 1100 “eaters” in a fully developed normal village. That means ~1100 infantry or ~400 horses – depending on their actual type. Units are quite nicely balanced. Then there are other types of units – scouts (name varies depending on the nation) that can “scan” other city (units, wall level, resources in warehouses) and if there are no scouts they are unnoticed. If there are some there will sort of fight between these scouts and you might end up with all your scouts being killed and you knowing nothing. Then there are two demolishing units – rams for walls and catapults for other buildings or resource fields. Walls are special because the higher level of the wall the higher % bonus to defense for the units in the city. Hence rams are important. Catapults are that bad thing that makes this game so cruel. 😉 Finally there are special unit for taking over foreign cities (persuading inhabitants to join your empire ;-)), then settlers that are here to build new city of yours and finally – your hero.

Hero is actually any chosen unit (in most cases either strongest cavalry or the fastest one) and it brings sort of RPG to the game – although it’s far less personal than RPG. When hero levels you have some points to spread into attack, attack bonus (% to all units that attack with him), defense (his own), defense bonus (% to all units of this player in the city where the hero is) and finally you can boost his regeneration rate. You can imagine that +20% to attack (which is the maximum) can really make the difference in some cases hence the hero is important feature of the game. When he dies you can regenerate him but it costs you multiples of the original training cost (depends on level and it can be really crazy for high levels) and also some time (which might be even more serious than the resource cost ;-)).

…and their movement

Finally about “hyperspace jumps” in this game. Yeah, medieval game and hyperspace… you grin. It’s like that. The map is 800×800 squares big and with typical infantry speed like… 6 squares per hour… do you get it? You can really fight only with your closesurrounding (at least at the beginning). If you send your first 10 precious soldiers to the other end of the map it will take SO MUCH time that the opponent can grow… well maybe even ten-fold. 🙂 You always see that there is attack coming to your town. Except scouts which are seen only after attack and only if you had your (or friendly) scouts in the town. But – when you send your army to other town this army literally disappears from your town and at the given (calculated) time it willappear in the target town (or at the gates, whatever ;-)) and there will be some fight and then they (maybe ;-)) go back. Again in hyperspace.

Why I emphasize the hyperspace when there is no hyperspace mentioned in the game principles – you ask? Well because if you send your troops and he send his troops (or her,really many good female players there… unless they are fakes, it’s Internet 😉 (many are real for sure!))… ok, so armies are heading against each other and… they simply fight in the target towns and go back. No way how they can meet in the middle. No way how you can have safe city in the middle of your other cities. It’s all event-based (programmers know what I mean ;-)) and you can reach any town you want. Space plays only one important role – that distance affects time and with more time to prepare defense you have better chance to crush the attacker. That’s all. Or not?

Tricky strategies

Player can see that the attack is coming but he doesn’t know how big it is. And there are two types of attacks – the normal one and the raid. When attacker hits the town both armies are compared and after one battle “iteration” there are some units left on both sides (unless the imbalance is that big that one side lose everything right away!). Raid ends here. Remaining attacker troops then take as much resources as they can carry (and can find in the town) and they take their way home. Normal attack continues until one side loses everything. You can catapult and ram the town only with normal attack and also persuade inhabitants to join you in normal attack only as well. Which makes it slightly harder but not that much and it makes sense that you have the town cleaned of defenders in order to take it.

You can only attack with troops that were build in that particular town – but you can defend with troops from other towns. You can send units as attack, raid or … reinforcements. Here it is – you can join forces to defend but you can’t do the same in attack. This brings at least some balance. Although it looks like it favors the defender it’s not exactly like this. The game still runs – in real time. Many players are either on the other side of the planet and they attack while you sleep. Very often you don’t have the chance to join defense if attack is in a few hours scope. If it takes day(s)… well, someone crazy can risk it. Or someone (over)confident. Or…

I said – you don’t know how big the incoming attack is. Hence there is very popular tactics how to bring uncertainty into defender’s lines. You attack ALL his towns from your main offensive town. Yeah, unless you have tens of them you have only one or few towns where you build your main offensive army. But all attacks are so called “fakes” (1 troop) – except one. Now how can defender know where to gather defense and what he might leave abandoned. And if the attacks are without catapults (you can judge by the time of the travel because “cata-attacks” are roughly twice as slow as infantry one) it’s not so crucial. You risk nothing except resources, you can spend them, send them to defended city… whatever. Now if the attack is slow (catapults – or so called “catas” or “cats”) you’re in trouble. In this case those fakes are 1 catapult each – these are more expensive but you have to do it because otherwise it’s easy to say what attack is the real one because of its slowness. Now – that’s the lottery.

A lot of fun…

…but for not that many players. That’s the thing why I stopped playing this game. It’s good game, it’s not realistic but it’s consistent, it has balance, but it’s just way to shallow and aggressive. For me. Many players enjoy this and I don’t argue with them – of course. This game is spoiled by players who stop to play it when they are farmed and they forget to delete their account (dead farm). It’s spoiled by weak players who expect something completely different (because Travian seems to provide more choices than mere war). At the end when few best players are building world wonder (which is ultimate goal in this game) they are supported by hundreds of other players who just send resources – and defend. This isn’t exactly most exciting period of the game – at least not for most of the players. When the round is over it’s rather a relief than a fantastic feeling (even when you’re in the winning alliance).

There is also speed version of the Travian game which supposed to be thrice as fast. This relates to resource production. Unit movement is twice as fast (thrice might be really too fast for this kind of game ;-)). But with crop production three-folded you can also have armies three times bigger. And really big armies are held in so called “cropper” where most of the resource fields are producing only crop. These towns are very sought after because crop production is the ultimate limit affecting your army size. While in the beginning you’re happy that you have 10 soldiers – at the end you can see attacks of more than 100,000 infantry + 30,000 horses + many catas – very often the army size exceeds 250,000 eaters. Crazy!

Your life will change

If you take Travian seriously you’ll find out that sometimes you have to wake up in the night to … send defense or dodge serious attack. (Dodge is another “trick” where you send your troops away when you know you’d lose – but you can cancel their movement first 90 s. So they will return right after the attacker merely visits your empty town. ;-)) You find yourself checking the Travian more and more. While at the beginning few clicks a day are just fine (because soon you’re out of resources) later there is a lot of stuff going on. And if you lead your own alliance you’ll write tons of in-game messages. This game starts affect your personal life. It’s not the matter of will. Question is if you want to play it better than the rest or rather not play it at all.

Now I often sit at my computer thinking what would I do with all that free time. 🙂 But maybe I’ll not sit at my computer that much. Maybe. And maybe I’ll write some new Utopia posts, hm? 🙂


About virgo47
Java Developer by profession in the first place. Gamer and amateur musician. And father too. Naive believer in brighter future. Step by step.

4 Responses to Travian intermezzo

  1. Dan says:

    Great post Richard, I’ve been playing Travian for 8 weeks and am starting to get hooked, so i recognise what your saying!

    I was just wondering, after you criticise the limitions of the game, can you remommend a similar online game which is a bit more constructive?

  2. virgo47 says:

    Dan, I can’t – at least not from my own experience. I had a great time with a girl who mentioned “Black Nova Traders” but this game is much older and was never that massively popular like Travian. Probably it’s not played at all now. I planned to create game with similar ideas but I lost drive for the idea after I stopped playing Travian. 🙂 In that game you were supposed to have clear enemy, there would be clear area owned by some parties and this all should encourage cooperation of closer players against the others.

  3. Mike says:

    very nice article, thanks for taking the time!

    I started this game 8 weeks ago, its sucking me in but i’m also sure to as quickly loose interest when the time comes – for much of the same reasons as yours.

    The catapults are the ultimate fun-killer for many.

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